The last session of the TUC Pension Trustee network was chaired by Kay Carberry, the Assistant General Secretary of the TUC. First speaker on "Where next for UK Pensions?" was Gregg McClymont MP and Labour Shadow Pension minister.
Gregg thought that a key problem with auto-enrolment was that the employer in the main will select the workplace pension for employees. Therefore we need to make sure that there is competition and value for money. It is an "odd" market which is not transparent.
The Office Fair Trading (OFT) recently sampled the pension market and found insufficient competition. Transaction costs are not fully disclosed. If you don't know what a product will cost how can you buy it? There are incentives for fund managers to churn. In pensions size and scale matters.
In Australia where there are already only large funds the regulator has been given powers to force the merger of schemes if it makes sense. Also each year trustees are obliged to formally consider whether or not it is in the interests of beneficiaries to merge. There needs to be independent trustee governance for funds.
This doesn't mean 200k small pension trustee boards. The 4 biggest providers make up 16% of schemes. OFT did identify some weakness in Trustee governance. It is not a panacea but the best option. You need tension to deliver share owner value and we should extend the fiduciary duty up the chain to everyone who handles trustees money.
Next was Sarah Smart from "Smart Cats Consulting" and currently the Chair of the Pension Trust and on the Lothian Pension fund (LGPS). Sarah predicted that in the next 15 years NEST will have 8-10 million members. You need to have scale in pensions. Big is not necessary better but with big you can buy better governance.
With big you can also share mortality risk with other members. Invest in growth assets rather than in annuities where you have to invest in gilts. For any new kind of Defined Ambition or Collective DC pension scheme employers have got to be reassured that they will not be liable with a scheme that is suddenly deemed to be DB?
She thinks that modern day politics means it is too short term for pensions. Instead we should have an independent pensions commission that decides things.
Last speaker was independent trustee Fiona Draper. She stressed the importance of good administration in a pension scheme. Even if you have a global firm in charge there is no guarantee in her experience that they can work things out right. The role of professional trustees is important but they should not replace member nominated trustees.
She mused why the Australians can have proper compulsion in pensions but we can't? Why?
Finally, she teaches on a UK international course on pensions designed for the developing world. When this course started no doubt the UK Defined Benefit Pension scheme and state pension was held up to be the best that the rest of world should aspire towards. Nowadays she finds that often her students are unimpressed with the UK model and say that their own countries pension provision is better.
After the close of conference there was the famous TUC Pension network reception which this year I had to leave early to rush off to my trade union branch meeting.
Gregg thought that a key problem with auto-enrolment was that the employer in the main will select the workplace pension for employees. Therefore we need to make sure that there is competition and value for money. It is an "odd" market which is not transparent.
The Office Fair Trading (OFT) recently sampled the pension market and found insufficient competition. Transaction costs are not fully disclosed. If you don't know what a product will cost how can you buy it? There are incentives for fund managers to churn. In pensions size and scale matters.
In Australia where there are already only large funds the regulator has been given powers to force the merger of schemes if it makes sense. Also each year trustees are obliged to formally consider whether or not it is in the interests of beneficiaries to merge. There needs to be independent trustee governance for funds.
This doesn't mean 200k small pension trustee boards. The 4 biggest providers make up 16% of schemes. OFT did identify some weakness in Trustee governance. It is not a panacea but the best option. You need tension to deliver share owner value and we should extend the fiduciary duty up the chain to everyone who handles trustees money.
Next was Sarah Smart from "Smart Cats Consulting" and currently the Chair of the Pension Trust and on the Lothian Pension fund (LGPS). Sarah predicted that in the next 15 years NEST will have 8-10 million members. You need to have scale in pensions. Big is not necessary better but with big you can buy better governance.
With big you can also share mortality risk with other members. Invest in growth assets rather than in annuities where you have to invest in gilts. For any new kind of Defined Ambition or Collective DC pension scheme employers have got to be reassured that they will not be liable with a scheme that is suddenly deemed to be DB?
She thinks that modern day politics means it is too short term for pensions. Instead we should have an independent pensions commission that decides things.
Last speaker was independent trustee Fiona Draper. She stressed the importance of good administration in a pension scheme. Even if you have a global firm in charge there is no guarantee in her experience that they can work things out right. The role of professional trustees is important but they should not replace member nominated trustees.
She mused why the Australians can have proper compulsion in pensions but we can't? Why?
Finally, she teaches on a UK international course on pensions designed for the developing world. When this course started no doubt the UK Defined Benefit Pension scheme and state pension was held up to be the best that the rest of world should aspire towards. Nowadays she finds that often her students are unimpressed with the UK model and say that their own countries pension provision is better.
After the close of conference there was the famous TUC Pension network reception which this year I had to leave early to rush off to my trade union branch meeting.
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