Showing posts with label Robert Shiller. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Robert Shiller. Show all posts

Thursday, August 20, 2009

Nassim Taleb and the Black Swan Cameron

On Tuesday I went to a breakfast seminar at the Royal Society Arts to hear Nassim Taleb (left) speak for the first time recently in London about the current worldwide economic crisis. He was here 30 months ago when he ridiculed by some for his predictions of a pending financial meltdown. Now of course he is the “hero of the hour” (as was Shiller).

Nassim is “Mr Interesting” personified. Check out his website “fooledbyrandomness”. He has a very high opinion of himself and a somewhat lesser opinion of those who don’t totally agree with this former opinion.

The panel comprised of Nassim, chair Danny Finkelstein from the FT and David Cameron - Conservative Party leader (check out Tuesdays post).

Nassim was very good value – provoking, entertaining and very personable - who spoke without any notes. His most famous work is “The Black Swan” which he explains is about “high-impact but low probability events”. Wikipedia explains further:-

The term Black Swan comes from the 17th century European assumption that 'All swans are white'. In that context, a black swan was a symbol for something that was impossible or could not exist... The main idea in Taleb's book is not to attempt to predict Black Swan events, but to build robustness to the negative ones, while being able to exploit positive ones. Taleb contends that banks and trading firms are very vulnerable to hazardous Black Swan events and are exposed to losses beyond that predicted by their defective models.

Nassim described himself as being in the “preventive business not emergency care” so he was uncharacteristically uncertain about what do next in the UK. He did convincingly argue that the big banks and financial institutions that are “too big to fail” must be broken up or they will just eventually repeat the same mistakes since they know that the authorities will not allow them to go bust. Check out similar argument here.

He also suggested that there is too much specialisation in financial services and too much debt. We need more generalist institutions which should have greater levels of deposits and lend less. (Not rocket science then?)

His solution to the current mortgage debt crisis is that Banks should stop sending “hate mail” to those in arrears and instead offer to reduce repayments in exchange for equity in these properties (good idea which is starting to happen in the UK). If there is cancer in the housing sector you don’t just offer pain killers.

Nassim actually likes economic crashes – he thinks they are good thing but they should not be big enough to be able to threaten the entire economic system as has recently happened.

He is very skeptical of “regulation” - he pointed out that he was a derivatives trader for several years and when he was a trader, give him a regulation, he would just find a way around it.

Regulations only benefit regulators and lawyers (workers capital argument?).

The bonus system in Banks definitely needs reforming. If Bankers are fooled by the randomness and give loans to black swans then they should not get any bonuses. (But who and how will they enforce this?)

I thought that Nassim ideas were really interesting. I was not able (despite trying) to ask my usual question to Nassim and Cameron about the role in the economic crisis that poor governance of workers capital played. Which is a pity - but there you go.

On the night before I read about Nassim’s proud boast that he always replies to short emails from people so I emailed him the question “Did Gordon Brown save the World”. He didn’t respond to this but to be fair he did actually email back and ask “Are you john Gray the author, my friend, or another one? “ I responded that “we are all Spartacus” but I was in fact “another one” to which he did not reply.

I suppose I hope he meant the highly regarded philosopher John Gray as a mate rather than the “Mars and Venus” John Gray. But somehow I have my doubts.

Sunday, December 14, 2008

Robert Shiller: The only one who saw it coming

Better late than never, but a couple of weeks ago I went to a lunchtime seminar at the “Work Foundation” to see a presentation by the Robert Shiller. In his book “Irrational Exuberance” published 8 years ago he predicated the current financial crisis. The book was an international best seller but was of course largely ignored and he got a lot of stick at the time as being some sort of doom and gloom merchant. Now he is the hero of the hour.

There were a number of heavy duty hitters at the seminar from the City and even Downing Street. The seminar was hosted by Will Hutton who has written about Shiller here. Tom at Labour & Capital has also an excellent report here on the seminar. So I’d just mention some things that particularly struck me.

The first thing is that Shiller’s presentation on why the bubble was predicable was so absolutely convincing that even with the benefit of hindsight you wondered why he was ignored? I asked my usual question about the role that poor governance of companies played in the crisis but he responded by saying that it was not an area he had looked into.

At the end I bought a copy of his new book “The Sub-Prime Solution - How Today’s Global Crisis Happened and What to Do about it”. I asked him to sign it which he did, reassuringly putting down the wrong month which he apologised for while quizzing me on the origin and pronunciation of my surname. After all no-body gets everything right.