tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post2953395399131907922..comments2024-03-04T08:34:20.376+00:00Comments on John's Labour blog: "New local government pensions proposals released"John Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14269161145575667147noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-89992981103227332852012-06-05T20:07:47.624+01:002012-06-05T20:07:47.624+01:00Wrong, Andrew
Not that it really matters but when...Wrong, Andrew<br /><br />Not that it really matters but when are the ultra left going to stop throwing their toys out of the pram and realise that this potentially is a historic deal for the union and its members?<br /><br />For too long the scheme has been ripped off by the high paid and the financial services industry. Now we have an opportunity to make the scheme work for all. In the face of DB schemes falling like ninepins in the private and public sector we now have a chance of reversing decades of decline and get decent guaranteed pensions for all workers, not just a minority. <br /><br />Of course, it you are not interested in getting a good deal for your members because you're strike chasing and you want to destroy the LGPS ‘cause it will somehow bring about the revolution - then carry on and campaign against it. The Tories right will be cheering you on and on(not for the first time).John Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269161145575667147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-20625984117385195202012-06-05T13:39:40.373+01:002012-06-05T13:39:40.373+01:00Actually it's yes yes and yes
Pay more: well ...Actually it's yes yes and yes<br /><br />Pay more: well most not on a monthly basis but over time you wil!<br /><br />Get less: almost certainly both in real terms to what paid in and on any reasonable prediction of economy. I see after some criticsam a link to doc suggesting otherwise has been removed!<br /><br />Work longer: no dispute on that one.Andrew Berryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788612800070493164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-48118607890892820872012-06-05T12:06:31.870+01:002012-06-05T12:06:31.870+01:00No, I am Spartacus!!No, I am Spartacus!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-46778366093859726512012-06-04T11:59:54.712+01:002012-06-04T11:59:54.712+01:00Er Im Spartacus!Er Im Spartacus!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-25520571076792857502012-06-01T22:53:10.946+01:002012-06-01T22:53:10.946+01:00Hi Spartacus
I've posted here a reply of sort...Hi Spartacus<br /><br />I've posted here a reply of sorts. I think things are more complex than you think. <br /><br />http://grayee.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/lgps-2014-future-of-british-sovereign.htmlJohn Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269161145575667147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-24104074680670894532012-06-01T10:49:00.127+01:002012-06-01T10:49:00.127+01:00I thought the last deal was supposed to be afforda...I thought the last deal was supposed to be affordable and sustainable - so I guess we need to add (after 25 years) "or until there is a change of government or a new witch hunt against the public sector". <br /><br />Personally I think it is outrageous that the media and tory and liberal politicians continually identify the LGPS as being the same as the non-contributory schemes (eg civil service).<br /><br />One thing is for sure - this change has been pushed for by the tory town hall mandarins who control the LGA for a long time before the "international financial crisis" so forgive my cynicism if I fail to believe the "world crisis" rationale and cannot see anything better in this deal than what was negotiated in 2008. Life expectancy has not changed that much in 4 years ( it may even be less !!). <br /><br />But "it was the best we were able to get" probably is about right as the vilification of public sector workers continues and the "levelling down" process begins to (try to) disguise the appalling nature of most private sector schemes. Don't hold your breath for the private sector to level up.<br /><br />So I suppose I should console myself with the thought that it is still better than the crap most private sector workers get.<br /><br />Vote tory and get crapped on is the lesson to take from this methinks.<br /><br />spartacusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-63001187509605158152012-06-01T09:18:13.566+01:002012-06-01T09:18:13.566+01:00Hi anon
It’s complicated but:-
No
No
Yes
We&#...Hi anon<br /><br />It’s complicated but:-<br /><br />No<br /><br />No<br /><br />Yes<br /><br />We're living longer. Its suppose to be a good thing. In return we get a world class guaranteed pension scheme "for 25 years" that is also an affordable and sustainable model that can be used by the millions and millions of public and private sector workers who don't have any access to such security in old age.<br /><br />I'll post further tonightJohn Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269161145575667147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7733583.post-51956031014487332142012-06-01T08:20:26.928+01:002012-06-01T08:20:26.928+01:00few questions -
are we paying more?
are we getti...few questions -<br /><br />are we paying more?<br /><br />are we getting less out?<br /><br />are we working longer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com