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Saturday, January 09, 2010
Wake up with a Boris fare hangover
Another good Bashing Boris leaflet over London fare increases. See also here, here and here.
I didn't vote for Boris - I was reading this blog and it kept saying he would not get elected! Just like it said Brown would call an election and then he did'nt? but I am really satisfied with the job he is doing. He is a great mayor and I will vote for him next time. Ken was useless.
Conveniently forgetting Ken's rises are we? 25% in his first term and 20% in 2005. The big lie he told about not raising fares just before the 2008 election when emails proved he was planning the opposite?
Why do you let tribalism corrupt you so? there is good and bad in all parties but your approach is Labour is divine, Tories are bad. Liberals? Well, jury's out on that one I guess
Hi Neil Calling people liars isn't really on you know. I accept that this is what you generally think and do - which is a shame. But there you go.
We have on good authority that to forgive is divine not Labour. I'm not indulging in tribalism but I just think that Labour (warts and all) is just better than all the rest.
I know you are trying to dig me out about the Lib Dems but why not come out openly about it? It's been discussed before on this blog before by the Ultra Left so why not by the Ultra right?
Interestingly Boris' decision to get rid of the very accessible bendy buses has cost at least 30 million pounds( bearing in mind he also refused to sell them on to the newish west end mall) and increased pollution and congestion(as the number of double deckers has been increased to make up for the loss of capacity) -as well as making the buses far less user friendly. kat
Hi Anon The vast majority of prices have gone up significantly – especially for the poor such as the bus price rises. The GLA precept freeze has not stopped fare increases and has been at the expense of the slashing and burning of London public projects. IMO
Agreed Kit. They are not perfect but they allow vast numbers of Londoners to travel into work and back – they are cheap, reduce bus queues and pollution. Nice one Boris!
I think you'll find you mentioned "the poor" before me John, so I'll let you define what that means. Perhaps you could comment on the increase in tfl's bus subsidies since 2000 and where you think the money for that has come from - probably not from those on council tax benefit methinks. In addition, 40% of bus users still pay nothing don't they?
I didn't vote for Boris - I was reading this blog and it kept saying he would not get elected! Just like it said Brown would call an election and then he did'nt? but I am really satisfied with the job he is doing. He is a great mayor and I will vote for him next time. Ken was useless.
ReplyDeleteHi Anon
ReplyDeleteKeeping reading the blog Chum - there is hope for you yet. One day you will see the light.
Obviously you have loads of money or you don't use TFL.
I do worry about your memory mind?
Conveniently forgetting Ken's rises are we? 25% in his first term and 20% in 2005. The big lie he told about not raising fares just before the 2008 election when emails proved he was planning the opposite?
ReplyDeleteWhy do you let tribalism corrupt you so? there is good and bad in all parties but your approach is Labour is divine, Tories are bad. Liberals? Well, jury's out on that one I guess
Hi Neil
ReplyDeleteCalling people liars isn't really on you know. I accept that this is what you generally think and do - which is a shame. But there you go.
We have on good authority that to forgive is divine not Labour. I'm not indulging in tribalism but I just think that Labour (warts and all) is just better than all the rest.
I know you are trying to dig me out about the Lib Dems but why not come out openly about it? It's been discussed before on this blog before by the Ultra Left so why not by the Ultra right?
Neil = Ultra right.
ReplyDeleteHere we go again!
Londonders still have a RIPOFF train fares on the London Underground. It is one of the most expensive in the world.
ReplyDeleteI seem to recall costs $1.15 in New York (thats about 60p to 80p).
What has 10 years of Labour done about it?
We are treated like second class citizens.
Hi Mike
ReplyDeleteYou have choosen to side with such people. Which is your right of course.
Hi Anon
Blame Boris Boyo. He's in charge.
"Such people"
ReplyDeleteI wonder what you mean by that?
Neil is one of the most decent people I know.
However, if I thought he was wrong I wouldn't "side" with him; I'd tell him what I think. And I'm confident that he would accept my view regardless.
Hi Mike
ReplyDeleteI'll take your word for it.
Shame you dont mention that Travelcard prices and the GLA precept have both been frozen - bit selective aren't we?
ReplyDeleteInterestingly Boris' decision to get rid of the very accessible bendy buses has cost at least 30 million pounds( bearing in mind he also refused to sell them on to the newish west end mall) and increased pollution and congestion(as the number of double deckers has been increased to make up for the loss of capacity) -as well as making the buses far less user friendly. kat
ReplyDeleteHi Anon
ReplyDeleteThe vast majority of prices have gone up significantly – especially for the poor such as the bus price rises. The GLA precept freeze has not stopped fare increases and has been at the expense of the slashing and burning of London public projects. IMO
Agreed Kit. They are not perfect but they allow vast numbers of Londoners to travel into work and back – they are cheap, reduce bus queues and pollution. Nice one Boris!
How's George?
Don't "the poor" also pay council tax"?
ReplyDeleteHi anon
ReplyDeleteDepends by what you mean as "poor"? Since we have Council tax benefit for those on low income and low savings.
I think you'll find you mentioned "the poor" before me John, so I'll let you define what that means. Perhaps you could comment on the increase in tfl's bus subsidies since 2000 and where you think the money for that has come from - probably not from those on council tax benefit methinks. In addition, 40% of bus users still pay nothing don't they?
ReplyDeleteHi anon
ReplyDeleteThe elderly and disabled have TFL freedom passes...and the problem is...?
That in a time of severe recession, these benefits have continued but you don't acknowledge that fact anywhere!
ReplyDeleteHi Anon
ReplyDeleteWe are still allowing very rich people to get away form paying their bit while the State subsidises (or pays for)their lifestyle.
So once again, the elderly and disabled have TFL freedom passes...and the problem is...?
The state is subsidising the rich? Really? and the problem is.....?
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